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Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zanten: Dutch Mass Murderer
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I'll Always Be 23/02/11
2011-02-23 22:12:38 UTC
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The Tenerife airport disaster in 1977 was a collision involving two Boeing 747
passenger aircraft on the runway of Los Rodeos Airport (now known as Tenerife
North Airport) on the Spanish island of Tenerife, one of the Canary Islands.
With 583 fatalities, the crash remains the deadliest accident in aviation
history. All 248 aboard the fully-fuelled KLM Flight 4805 were killed. There
were also 335 fatalities and 61 survivors from Pan Am Flight 1736, which was
struck along its spine by the KLM's landing gear, under-belly and four engines.
Rescue crews were unaware for over 20 minutes that the Pan Am aircraft was also
involved in the accident, because of the heavy fog and the separation of the
crippled aircraft following the collision.

The collision took place on March 27, 1977, at 17:06:56 local time. The aircraft
were operating as Pan Am Flight 1736 (the Clipper Victor) under the command of
Captain Victor Grubbs, and KLM Flight 4805 (the Rijn) under the command of
Captain Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zanten. Taking off in heavy fog on the airport's
only runway, the KLM flight crashed into the top of the Pan Am aircraft
backtaxiing in the opposite direction. The Pan Am had followed the backtaxiing
of the KLM aircraft, under the direction of air traffic control, and the KLM's
flight crew had been aware of Pan Am backtaxiing behind them on the same runway.
Despite lack of visual confirmation due to the fog the KLM captain thought that
Pan Am had cleared the runway and so attempted to take off without further
clearance to do so. Several other key factors contributed to the accident.
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2011-02-24 05:30:28 UTC
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The Tenerife airport disaster in 1977 was a collision involving two Boeing 747
passenger aircraft on the runway of Los Rodeos Airport (now known as Tenerife
North Airport) on the Spanish island of Tenerife, one of the Canary Islands.
With 583 fatalities, the crash remains the deadliest accident in aviation
history. All 248 aboard the fully-fuelled KLM Flight 4805 were killed. There
were also 335 fatalities and 61 survivors from Pan Am Flight 1736, which was
struck along its spine by the KLM's landing gear, under-belly and four engines.
Rescue crews were unaware for over 20 minutes that the Pan Am aircraft was also
involved in the accident, because of the heavy fog and the separation of the
crippled aircraft following the collision.
The collision took place on March 27, 1977, at 17:06:56 local time. The aircraft
were operating as Pan Am Flight 1736 (the Clipper Victor) under the command of
Captain Victor Grubbs, and KLM Flight 4805 (the Rijn) under the command of
Captain Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zanten. Taking off in heavy fog on the airport's
only runway, the KLM flight crashed into the top of the Pan Am aircraft
backtaxiing in the opposite direction. The Pan Am had followed the backtaxiing
of the KLM aircraft, under the direction of air traffic control, and the KLM's
flight crew had been aware of Pan Am backtaxiing behind them on the same runway.
Despite lack of visual confirmation due to the fog the KLM captain thought that
Pan Am had cleared the runway and so attempted to take off without further
clearance to do so. Several other key factors contributed to the accident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster

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If only you would
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If only you would
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I m not going to spend much more time on this matter. read and apologize,
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2011-02-25 01:02:17 UTC
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I m not going to spend much more time on this matter.
Of course not...if you did you'd have to confront the horrendous nature of your
countrymen



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For telling the truth? Never
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2011-02-25 08:01:24 UTC
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I m not going to spend much more time on this matter.
Of course not...if you did you'd have to confront the horrendous nature of your
countrymen
read and apologize,
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For telling the truth? Never
american were assholes because they took the wrong turn from the runway. the
dutch caaptain was wrong because he took off without clearance and the
spaniards were and still are assholes for having such a poorly equiped
airport.
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2011-02-25 18:21:37 UTC
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american were assholes because they took the wrong turn from the runway. the
dutch caaptain was wrong because he took off without clearance and the
spaniards were and still are assholes for having such a poorly equiped
airport.
It doesn't matter where the Pan Am flight was. The salient fact is that Van
Zanten did not have clearance to take off, but did anyway.

Ultimately, Van Zanten was totally negligent and should be considered a Mass
Murderer.
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2011-02-25 18:35:30 UTC
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american were assholes because they took the wrong turn from the runway. the
dutch caaptain was wrong because he took off without clearance and the
spaniards were and still are assholes for having such a poorly equiped
airport.
It doesn't matter where the Pan Am flight was. The salient fact is that Van
Zanten did not have clearance to take off, but did anyway.
Ultimately, Van Zanten was totally negligent and should be considered a Mass
Murderer.
he was not an easy going person. the crew had to follow his orders without
giving comments. salient fact is that he was head trainer of the klm pilots.
I'll Always Be 25/02/11
2011-02-25 19:32:33 UTC
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he was not an easy going person. the crew had to follow his orders without
giving comments. salient fact is that he was head trainer of the klm pilots.
Salient fact is that he had already violated take-off protocol previously by
trying to take-off with out getting approval for his flight plan. As head
trainer there was no excuse for what he did. On top of this, he unnecessarily
took on 55 tons of fuel which wasn't needed for the final leg and slowed the
take-off.

Face it, he was a mass murderer
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2011-02-25 19:58:28 UTC
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he was not an easy going person. the crew had to follow his orders without
giving comments. salient fact is that he was head trainer of the klm pilots.
Salient fact is that he had already violated take-off protocol previously by
trying to take-off with out getting approval for his flight plan. As head
trainer there was no excuse for what he did. On top of this, he unnecessarily
took on 55 tons of fuel which wasn't needed for the final leg and slowed the
take-off.
Face it, he was a mass murderer
file a complaint moron
I'll Always Be 25/02/11
2011-02-25 21:13:23 UTC
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he was not an easy going person. the crew had to follow his orders without
giving comments. salient fact is that he was head trainer of the klm pilots.
Salient fact is that he had already violated take-off protocol previously
by trying to take-off with out getting approval for his flight plan. As
head trainer there was no excuse for what he did. On top of this, he
unnecessarily took on 55 tons of fuel which wasn't needed for the final leg
and slowed the take-off.
Face it, he was a mass murderer
file a complaint moron
I did, with you and I loved the way it was so easy to make you dance
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2011-02-26 05:12:00 UTC
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he was not an easy going person. the crew had to follow his orders without
giving comments. salient fact is that he was head trainer of the klm pilots.
Salient fact is that he had already violated take-off protocol previously
by trying to take-off with out getting approval for his flight plan. As
head trainer there was no excuse for what he did. On top of this, he
unnecessarily took on 55 tons of fuel which wasn't needed for the final leg
and slowed the take-off.
Face it, he was a mass murderer
file a complaint moron
I did, with you and I loved the way it was so easy to make you dance
poor sod, you are sick in the head
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poor sod, you are sick in the head
poor lul you are dutch
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poor sod, you are sick in the head
poor lul you are dutch
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Who are you to say such a thing?
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who are you to doubt my words?
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The purveyor of truth as opposed to you the purveyor of hate
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who are you to doubt my words?
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you are too much in love with yourself
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Who are you to say such a thing?
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
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any objections to that?
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who are you to doubt my words?
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
go back to bed
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who are you to doubt my words?
The purveyor of truth as opposed to you the purveyor of hate
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
go back to bed
There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
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who are you to doubt my words?
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
go back to bed
There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
go back to bed
There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
A superior asshole, yes you are
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Who are you to say such a thing?
who are you to doubt my words?
The purveyor of truth as opposed to you the purveyor of hate
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you are too much in love with yourself
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go back to bed
There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
A superior asshole, yes you are
good to see I ruined your day
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The purveyor of truth as opposed to you the purveyor of hate
I fixed your deletion for you
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
go back to bed
There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
A superior asshole, yes you are
good to see I ruined your day
Far from it. Americans are all too used to inferior europeans
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The purveyor of truth as opposed to you the purveyor of hate
I fixed your deletion for you
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
go back to bed
There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
A superior asshole, yes you are
good to see I ruined your day
Far from it. Americans are all too used to inferior europeans
one day even you american assholes will see the light
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The purveyor of truth as opposed to you the purveyor of hate
I fixed your deletion for you
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
go back to bed
There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
A superior asshole, yes you are
good to see I ruined your day
Far from it. Americans are all too used to inferior europeans
one day even you american assholes will see the light
In your case that light is bright with potential...I see you emulating the
bodies in Dresden
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The purveyor of truth as opposed to you the purveyor of hate
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you are too much in love with yourself
This from the dutch purveyor of hate? LOL
go back to bed
There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
A superior asshole, yes you are
good to see I ruined your day
Far from it. Americans are all too used to inferior europeans
one day even you american assholes will see the light
In your case that light is bright with potential...I see you emulating the
bodies in Dresden
the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
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There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
A superior asshole, yes you are
good to see I ruined your day
Far from it. Americans are all too used to inferior europeans
one day even you american assholes will see the light
In your case that light is bright with potential...I see you emulating the
bodies in Dresden
the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The only problem
is that you weren't there.
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There's still plenty of time for me to irritate you
thank you for admitting that I am superior to you
A superior asshole, yes you are
good to see I ruined your day
Far from it. Americans are all too used to inferior europeans
one day even you american assholes will see the light
In your case that light is bright with potential...I see you emulating the
bodies in Dresden
the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The only problem
is that you weren't there.
you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and caused
only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed because the
yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped their bombs on dutch
cities along the border.
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the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The only problem
is that you weren't there.
you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and caused
only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed because the
yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped their bombs on dutch
cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
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the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The only problem
is that you weren't there.
you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and caused
only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed because the
yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped their bombs on dutch
cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
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the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The only problem
is that you weren't there.
you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and caused
only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed because the
yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped their bombs on dutch
cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to the troops
occupying the Netherlands?
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the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The
only
problem
is that you weren't there.
you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and caused
only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed
because
the
yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped their bombs on dutch
cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to the troops
occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
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you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and
caused only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed
because the yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped
their bombs on dutch cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to the
troops occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
Anyone that helped the germans was a fair target.
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you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and
caused only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed
because the yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped
their bombs on dutch cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to the
troops occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
Anyone that helped the germans was a fair target.
TYPICAL REPLY FROM AN IGNORAMUS. this is so stupid a reply that I will give
no further comment on it
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You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to the
troops occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
Anyone that helped the germans was a fair target.
TYPICAL REPLY FROM AN IGNORAMUS. this is so stupid a reply that I will give
no further comment on it
Then I have accomplished my goal.
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You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to the
troops occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
Anyone that helped the germans was a fair target.
TYPICAL REPLY FROM AN IGNORAMUS. this is so stupid a reply that I will give
no further comment on it
Then I have accomplished my goal.
I go to bed and wish you a happy day dreaming about the dresden bombing
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You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to
the troops occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
Anyone that helped the germans was a fair target.
TYPICAL REPLY FROM AN IGNORAMUS. this is so stupid a reply that I will
give no further comment on it
Then I have accomplished my goal.
I go to bed and wish you a happy day dreaming about the dresden bombing
I stay awake and have a happy day knowing that the bombing of the Ruhr makes
you unhappy, although I thought you weren't going to make any more comments on it
NEMO
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I'll Always Be There, Heinrich goes to bed wearing his Pickle-Haube &
has wet dreams about Adolf Schikelgruber!
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I'll Always Be There, Heinrich goes to bed wearing his Pickle-Haube &
has wet dreams about Adolf Schikelgruber!
go and suck jew rectums
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I'll Always Be There, Heinrich goes to bed wearing his Pickle-Haube &
has wet dreams about Adolf Schikelgruber!
go and suck jew rectums
Reports are that you are much better at that
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I'll Always Be There, Heinrich goes to bed wearing his Pickle-Haube &
has wet dreams about Adolf Schikelgruber!
go and suck jew rectums
Reports are that you are much better at that
why are you supporting that canadian jew boy cuntica/nemo? do you fancy him?
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I'll Always Be There, Heinrich goes to bed wearing his Pickle-Haube &
has wet dreams about Adolf Schikelgruber!
go and suck jew rectums
Reports are that you are much better at that
why are you supporting that canadian jew boy cuntica/nemo? do you fancy him?
Why are you so obsessed with rectums? do you fancy them?
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I'll Always Be There, Heinrich goes to bed wearing his Pickle-Haube &
has wet dreams about Adolf Schikelgruber!
go and suck jew rectums
Reports are that you are much better at that
why are you supporting that canadian jew boy cuntica/nemo? do you fancy him?
Why are you so obsessed with rectums? do you fancy them?
considering this reply I think it is time for you to go to bed. wish you
pleasant dreams and keep your hands above the sheets
I'll Always Be 04/03/11
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I'll Always Be There, Heinrich goes to bed wearing his Pickle-Haube &
has wet dreams about Adolf Schikelgruber!
go and suck jew rectums
Reports are that you are much better at that
why are you supporting that canadian jew boy cuntica/nemo? do you fancy him?
Why are you so obsessed with rectums? do you fancy them?
considering this reply I think it is time for you to go to bed. wish you
pleasant dreams and keep your hands above the sheets
Considering the replier, you should go to bed in an airtight room. Pleasant
dreams
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You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to
the troops occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
Anyone that helped the germans was a fair target.
TYPICAL REPLY FROM AN IGNORAMUS. this is so stupid a reply that I will
give no further comment on it
Then I have accomplished my goal.
I go to bed and wish you a happy day dreaming about the dresden bombing
I stay awake and have a happy day knowing that the bombing of the Ruhr makes
you unhappy, although I thought you weren't going to make any more comments on it


result of an american bombing on the city of nijmegen in 1944. the city is
located close to the ruhr area. since the cowboys have little knowledge of
geography they dropped their bombs on dutch soil.
I'll Always Be 04/03/11
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I stay awake and have a happy day knowing that the bombing of the Ruhr
makes you unhappy, although I thought you weren't going to make any more
comments on it
http://youtu.be/2KEmSF6lm2M
result of an american bombing on the city of nijmegen in 1944. the city is
located close to the ruhr area. since the cowboys have little knowledge of
geography they dropped their bombs on dutch soil.
I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says that the
purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar casualties was just a
minor incident
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I stay awake and have a happy day knowing that the bombing of the Ruhr
makes you unhappy, although I thought you weren't going to make any more
comments on it
http://youtu.be/2KEmSF6lm2M
result of an american bombing on the city of nijmegen in 1944. the city is
located close to the ruhr area. since the cowboys have little knowledge of
geography they dropped their bombs on dutch soil.
I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says that the
purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar casualties was just a
minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
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I stay awake and have a happy day knowing that the bombing of the Ruhr
makes you unhappy, although I thought you weren't going to make any more
comments on it
http://youtu.be/2KEmSF6lm2M
result of an american bombing on the city of nijmegen in 1944. the city is
located close to the ruhr area. since the cowboys have little knowledge of
geography they dropped their bombs on dutch soil.
I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says that the
purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar casualties was
just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in a
dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist view. Do try
to keep up.

In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you were
hoping to extend the war
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I stay awake and have a happy day knowing that the bombing of the Ruhr
makes you unhappy, although I thought you weren't going to make any more
comments on it
http://youtu.be/2KEmSF6lm2M
result of an american bombing on the city of nijmegen in 1944. the city is
located close to the ruhr area. since the cowboys have little knowledge of
geography they dropped their bombs on dutch soil.
I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says that the
purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar casualties was
just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in a
dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist view. Do try
to keep up.
In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you were
hoping to extend the war
let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin.
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"let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin"

& they bombed it flat & then went back & bombed the rubble & then the
Russkies turned the Berliners into whores!

Ain't life grand!
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"let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin"
& they bombed it flat & then went back & bombed the rubble & then the
Russkies turned the Berliners into whores!
Ain't life grand!
you climaxed?
I'll Always Be 04/03/11
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"let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin"
& they bombed it flat & then went back & bombed the rubble & then the
Russkies turned the Berliners into whores!
Ain't life grand!
you climaxed?
just can't keep sex out of any of your replies, can you?
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"let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin"
& they bombed it flat & then went back & bombed the rubble & then the
Russkies turned the Berliners into whores!
Ain't life grand!
you climaxed?
just can't keep sex out of any of your replies, can you?
I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian homosexual
I'll Always Be 05/03/11
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"let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin"
& they bombed it flat & then went back & bombed the rubble & then the
Russkies turned the Berliners into whores!
Ain't life grand!
you climaxed?
just can't keep sex out of any of your replies, can you?
I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian homosexual
So you can't ignore homosexuals? Figures
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"let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin"
& they bombed it flat & then went back & bombed the rubble & then the
Russkies turned the Berliners into whores!
Ain't life grand!
you climaxed?
just can't keep sex out of any of your replies, can you?
I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian homosexual
So you can't ignore homosexuals? Figures
I think that you feel attracted to them as well
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"let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin"
& they bombed it flat & then went back & bombed the rubble & then the
Russkies turned the Berliners into whores!
Ain't life grand!
you climaxed?
just can't keep sex out of any of your replies, can you?
I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian homosexual
So you can't ignore homosexuals? Figures
I think that you feel attracted to them as well
That's the trouble with you thinking
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"let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting
this
by
bombing berlin"
& they bombed it flat & then went back & bombed the rubble & then the
Russkies turned the Berliners into whores!
Ain't life grand!
you climaxed?
just can't keep sex out of any of your replies, can you?
I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian homosexual
So you can't ignore homosexuals? Figures
I think that you feel attracted to them as well
That's the trouble with you thinking
wrong. iu am perfectly capable of thinking
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you climaxed?
just can't keep sex out of any of your replies, can you?
I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian homosexual
So you can't ignore homosexuals? Figures
I think that you feel attracted to them as well
That's the trouble with you thinking
wrong. iu am perfectly capable of thinking
That's the trouble with you thinking
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" I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian
homosexual"

The only well known Canadian homosexual in this group is your
girlfriend Johannes von Ebersdorf/Hans-Peter Skaliks of Vaughan,
Ontario!
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" I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian
homosexual"
The only well known Canadian homosexual in this group is your
girlfriend Johannes von Ebersdorf/Hans-Peter Skaliks of Vaughan,
Ontario!
he turned you down?
I'll Always Be 05/03/11
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" I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian
homosexual"
The only well known Canadian homosexual in this group is your
girlfriend Johannes von Ebersdorf/Hans-Peter Skaliks of Vaughan,
Ontario!
he turned you down?
but not you
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" I was talking to nemo/cuntica who is a wellknown canadian
homosexual"
The only well known Canadian homosexual in this group is your
girlfriend Johannes von Ebersdorf/Hans-Peter Skaliks of Vaughan,
Ontario!
he turned you down?
but not you
I take that as a yes
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I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says that
the purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar casualties
was just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in a
dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist view. Do
try to keep up.
In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you were
hoping to extend the war
let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by bombing
berlin.
Perhaps you forgot about the Germans bombing Warsaw first
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I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says that
the purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar casualties
was just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in a
dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist view. Do
try to keep up.
In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you were
hoping to extend the war
let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by bombing
berlin.
Perhaps you forgot about the Germans bombing Warsaw first
that was when the war broke out in 1939
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I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says
that the purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar
casualties was just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in
a dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist
view. Do try to keep up.
In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you
were hoping to extend the war
let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin.
Perhaps you forgot about the Germans bombing Warsaw first
that was when the war broke out in 1939
Idiot, that was what caused the war to break out, of course to you that doesn't
count because they weren't dutch
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I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says
that the purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar
casualties was just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in
a dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist
view. Do try to keep up.
In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you
were hoping to extend the war
let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin.
Perhaps you forgot about the Germans bombing Warsaw first
that was when the war broke out in 1939
Idiot, that was what caused the war to break out, of course to you that doesn't
count because they weren't dutch
I am not interested in poles.they are peasants a pain in the arse and always
drunk
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I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says
that the purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar
casualties was just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in
a dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist
view. Do try to keep up.
In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you
were hoping to extend the war
let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin.
Perhaps you forgot about the Germans bombing Warsaw first
that was when the war broke out in 1939
Idiot, that was what caused the war to break out, of course to you that doesn't
count because they weren't dutch
I am not interested in poles.they are peasants a pain in the arse and always
drunk
As always, the character "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is full of shit. The
bombing of Warsaw did not cause WW2 to break out. The war was already
in progress.
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I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says
that the purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar
casualties was just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in
a dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist
view. Do try to keep up.
In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you
were hoping to extend the war
let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin.
Perhaps you forgot about the Germans bombing Warsaw first
that was when the war broke out in 1939
Idiot, that was what caused the war to break out, of course to you that doesn't
count because they weren't dutch
I am not interested in poles.they are peasants a pain in the arse and always
drunk
As always, the character "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is full of shit. The
bombing of Warsaw did not cause WW2 to break out. The war was already
in progress.
genau
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As always, the character "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is full of shit. The
bombing of Warsaw did not cause WW2 to break out. The war was already
in progress.
I misspoke. I meant the staged attacks on Germany by the Germans so they could
invade Poland. The unbesieged city bombed, with great loss of life on 1 Sept 39
was Wielun
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let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by
bombing berlin.
Perhaps you forgot about the Germans bombing Warsaw first
that was when the war broke out in 1939
Idiot, that was what caused the war to break out, of course to you that
doesn't count because they weren't dutch
I am not interested in poles.they are peasants a pain in the arse and always
drunk
Which is why TSA doesn't let fools like you into the States without causing
them a pain in their ass
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I don't know what you are whining about. Your good friend ebe says that
the purposeful bombing of Coventry which resulted in similar casualties
was just a minor incident
donot change the subject.we are now discussing the ruhr bombings.
Actually you were discussing the horrible tragedy of 800 people dying in a
dutch city and I was just trying to remind you of ebes revisionist view. Do
try to keep up.
In any event there was nothing wrong with bombing the Ruhr, unless you were
hoping to extend the war
let us get one thing straight: the imbecilic british starting this by bombing
berlin.
Perhaps you forgot about the Germans bombing Warsaw first
that was when the war broke out in 1939
The bombing of Warsaw was legitimate under the various conventions.
Since Warsaw was under siege, the bombings, by small aircraft, were
the equivalent of artillery bombardment and hence quite legitimate.

Even if Warsaw were not legitimate, it hardly excuses later
Anglo-American crimes.
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The bombing of Warsaw was legitimate under the various conventions.
Since Warsaw was under siege, the bombings, by small aircraft, were
the equivalent of artillery bombardment and hence quite legitimate.
Following several German-staged incidents (like the Gleiwitz incident, a part of
Operation Himmler), which German propaganda used as an excuse to claim that
German forces were acting in self-defence, the first regular act of war took
place on 1 September 1939, at 04:40, when the German Air Force (Luftwaffe)
attacked the Polish town of Wielun, destroying 75% of the city and killing close
to 1,200 people, most of them civilians. This invasion subsequently began the
Second World War. Five minutes later, the old German pre-dreadnought battleship
Schleswig-Holstein opened fire on the Polish military transit depot at
Westerplatte in the Free City of Danzig on the Baltic Sea. At 08:00, German
troops, still without a formal declaration of war issued, attacked near the
Polish town of Mokra. The Battle of the Border had begun. Later that day, the
Germans attacked on Poland's western, southern and northern borders, while
German aircraft began raids on Polish cities.



Please show us what german forces were besieging Wielun on 1 Sept 39. Do the
same for Danzig (Naval forces don't count as besiegers).
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Even if Warsaw were not legitimate, it hardly excuses later
Anglo-American crimes.
What crimes?
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you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and
caused only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed
because the yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped
their bombs on dutch cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to the
troops occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
Anyone that helped the germans was a fair target.
TYPICAL REPLY FROM AN IGNORAMUS. this is so stupid a reply that I will give
no further comment on it
LOL

You are probably wasting your time having any discourse with
I'll-always-be-a-fool.
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the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The
only
problem
is that you weren't there.
you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and caused
only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed
because
the
yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped their bombs on dutch
cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
You mean the German Industrial area supplying arms and armaments to the troops
occupying the Netherlands?
and where thpousdands of dutch forced labourers weere employed and were
killed by yankee bombs
The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the
medieval cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the
ancient houses were close together and still used a lot of
combustibles in their construction. Their tactic failed totally in a
newer more modern city such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able
to set the city on fire.
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The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the
medieval cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the
ancient houses were close together and still used a lot of
combustibles in their construction. Their tactic failed totally in a
newer more modern city such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able
to set the city on fire.
They didn't have to set it on fire more than they usually did. They just pounded
to rubble and then pounded the rubble to small stones and then pounded the small
stones to dust.
heinrich
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The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the
medieval cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the
ancient houses were close together and still used a lot of
combustibles in their construction. Their tactic failed totally in a
newer more modern city such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able
to set the city on fire.
They didn't have to set it on fire more than they usually did. They just pounded
to rubble and then pounded the rubble to small stones and then pounded the small
stones to dust.
you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I'll Always Be 05/03/11
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The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the
medieval cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the
ancient houses were close together and still used a lot of
combustibles in their construction. Their tactic failed totally in a
newer more modern city such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able
to set the city on fire.
They didn't have to set it on fire more than they usually did. They just pounded
to rubble and then pounded the rubble to small stones and then pounded the small
stones to dust.
you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
This is really strange coming from you. You don't like arabs, brits, blacks,
jews or Americans, but do seem to prefer whores and homosexuals.
heinrich
2011-03-05 07:36:31 UTC
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The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the
medieval cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the
ancient houses were close together and still used a lot of
combustibles in their construction. Their tactic failed totally in a
newer more modern city such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able
to set the city on fire.
They didn't have to set it on fire more than they usually did. They
just
pounded
to rubble and then pounded the rubble to small stones and then pounded
the
small
stones to dust.
you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
This is really strange coming from you. You don't like arabs, brits, blacks,
jews or Americans, but do seem to prefer whores and homosexuals.
evasion noted.
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The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the
medieval cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the
ancient houses were close together and still used a lot of
combustibles in their construction. Their tactic failed totally in a
newer more modern city such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able
to set the city on fire.
They didn't have to set it on fire more than they usually did. They just pounded
to rubble and then pounded the rubble to small stones and then pounded the small
stones to dust.
you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I suspect that "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is an equal-opportunity bigot
and hates most everybody.
heinrich
2011-03-05 12:33:30 UTC
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The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the
medieval cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the
ancient houses were close together and still used a lot of
combustibles in their construction. Their tactic failed totally in a
newer more modern city such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able
to set the city on fire.
They didn't have to set it on fire more than they usually did. They just pounded
to rubble and then pounded the rubble to small stones and then pounded
the
small
stones to dust.
you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I suspect that "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is an equal-opportunity bigot
and hates most everybody.
I think hiss mother left him at the age of three
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I think hiss mother left him at the age of three
Do you even know who your father is"?
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I think hiss mother left him at the age of three
Do you even know who your father is"?
yes sir
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I think hiss mother left him at the age of three
Do you even know who your father is"?
yes sir
I guess you got lucky
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I think hiss mother left him at the age of three
Do you even know who your father is"?
yes sir
I guess you got lucky
do you like soul music? I do nmot I consider it a lot of noise with
screamings negroes dressed like apes
I'll Always Be 06/03/11
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I think hiss mother left him at the age of three
Do you even know who your father is"?
yes sir
I guess you got lucky
do you like soul music? I do nmot I consider it a lot of noise with
screamings negroes dressed like apes
What's the most famous style of music to originate from the Netherlands? Who is
your most popular "artist"?
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I think hiss mother left him at the age of three
Do you even know who your father is"?
yes sir
I guess you got lucky
do you like soul music? I do nmot I consider it a lot of noise with
screamings negroes dressed like apes
What's the most famous style of music to originate from the Netherlands? Who is
your most popular "artist"?

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The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the medieval
cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the ancient houses
were close together and still used a lot of combustibles in their
construction. Their tactic failed totally in a newer more modern city
such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able to set the city on fire.
They didn't have to set it on fire more than they usually did. They just
pounded to rubble and then pounded the rubble to small stones and then
pounded the small stones to dust.
you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I suspect that "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is an equal-opportunity bigot and
hates most everybody.
Has anyone noticed how ebe is careful to phrase his posts in such a why to
avoid being charged with libel. I know that he is a coward, but I wonder how
many times he's been in court for defamation?
heinrich
2011-03-05 18:14:29 UTC
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The allies were not bombing the industrial areas, those fell victim to
the dismantlers postwar. The allied targets were generally the medieval
cores of ancient cities such as Köln or Mainz where the ancient houses
were close together and still used a lot of combustibles in their
construction. Their tactic failed totally in a newer more modern city
such as Berlin. No amount of bombing was able to set the city on fire.
They didn't have to set it on fire more than they usually did. They just
pounded to rubble and then pounded the rubble to small stones and then
pounded the small stones to dust.
you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I suspect that "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is an equal-opportunity bigot and
hates most everybody.
Has anyone noticed how ebe is careful to phrase his posts in such a why to
avoid being charged with libel. I know that he is a coward, but I wonder how
many times he's been in court for defamation?
there is notthing wrong with johannes, you americans fond of sueing
everybody are insane
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you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I suspect that "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is an equal-opportunity bigot and
hates most everybody.
Has anyone noticed how ebe is careful to phrase his posts in such a why to
avoid being charged with libel. I know that he is a coward, but I wonder
how many times he's been in court for defamation?
there is notthing wrong with johannes, you americans fond of sueing everybody
are insane
ebe is a coward. Just look at how he phrases every non response to me: "I
suspect", "I think". Apparently he doesn't have enough courage to actually
state what he "believes"
heinrich
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you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I suspect that "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is an equal-opportunity bigot and
hates most everybody.
Has anyone noticed how ebe is careful to phrase his posts in such a why to
avoid being charged with libel. I know that he is a coward, but I wonder
how many times he's been in court for defamation?
there is notthing wrong with johannes, you americans fond of sueing everybody
are insane
ebe is a coward. Just look at how he phrases every non response to me: "I
suspect", "I think". Apparently he doesn't have enough courage to actually
state
whyu do you call him ebe?
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you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I suspect that "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is an equal-opportunity bigot and
hates most everybody.
Has anyone noticed how ebe is careful to phrase his posts in such a why to
avoid being charged with libel. I know that he is a coward, but I wonder
how many times he's been in court for defamation?
there is notthing wrong with johannes, you americans fond of sueing everybody
are insane
ebe is a coward. Just look at how he phrases every non response to me: "I
suspect", "I think". Apparently he doesn't have enough courage to actually
state
whyu do you call him ebe?
Because typing benji takes too much time
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you seem a complicated person to me. you do not like australians,
germans,dutch, canadians. is there one nation on this globe you do like?
I suspect that "I'll-always-be-a-fool" is an equal-opportunity bigot
and
hates most everybody.
Has anyone noticed how ebe is careful to phrase his posts in such a
why
to
avoid being charged with libel. I know that he is a coward, but I wonder
how many times he's been in court for defamation?
there is notthing wrong with johannes, you americans fond of sueing everybody
are insane
ebe is a coward. Just look at how he phrases every non response to me: "I
suspect", "I think". Apparently he doesn't have enough courage to actually
state
whyu do you call him ebe?
Because typing benji takes too much time
this reply does not make sense, try aagain

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the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The only problem
is that you weren't there.
you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and caused
only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed because the
yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped their bombs on dutch
cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
I doubt that I'll-always-be-a-moron understands that. He is the
definition of ignorance and stupidity.
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the bombing of dresden is one of your favorites?
The destruction of an enemy manufacturing center...absolutely. The
only
problem
is that you weren't there.
you dombo all those bombings did not effect germans war effort and caused
only many civilian deaths. many dutch civilians were also killed
because
the
yankee asshole had no idea where they were and dropped their bombs on dutch
cities along the border.
So you are saying Dresden was near the Netherlands?
you fool. there were a lot more bombardments on germany. maybe there is a
chance that you heard of the ruhrarea which is not far from the dutch border
I doubt that I'll-always-be-a-moron understands that. He is the
definition of ignorance and stupidity.
what cuntica/nemo is for canada, is always for the usa: a disgrace
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"what cuntica/nemo is for canada, is always for the usa: a disgrace"

& I'm also for the U.S.A. - right or wrong! (I"m also for Holland
regardless of an idiot like you being Dutch!)
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"what cuntica/nemo is for canada, is always for the usa: a disgrace"
& I'm also for the U.S.A. - right or wrong! (I"m also for Holland
regardless of an idiot like you being Dutch!)
I am deeply touched by your kind words.
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